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August 05, 2010

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jonc

Madrasses the same as Sunday schools, Ms. Alibi-Brown?
I do not think so.

"The Muslim pupils organised a boycott because she had invited 'unbelievers'. "
Let's be clear here: that is entirely in accordance with the Koran (5:51, 3:28)

Music is forbidden in the Hadith (which forms a basis for Sharia law) Bukhari Vol.7: 494.
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Ms. Alibhai-Brown makes a number of good points here and addresses the fact of radicalisation of British Moslems.
However, she fails in several points as well.
Her liking of moral relativity: Madrassah = Sunday School; joyless Taliban = Chinese Cultural revolution.
These things are not equivalent, Islam has had its "joyless" members for 1400 years, whereas the Chinese cultural revolution lasted for just 10 (ten) years and by 1980 its leaders were on trial for it.
Exactly what leaders have ever been on trial for fundamentalist Islam?
I'll tell another story to add to those above:
I know of a large Muslim family of which two members decided to study the Koran, Hadith etc.
These two became the most fundamentalist of the whole family.
Ms. Alibhai-Brown calls the Wahhabi/Salafi creed "distorted".
I disagree, it is literalist, rigourous and (to a Western mind) backward; but to say it somehow "distorts Islam" is itself a distortion.

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ali

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them."

Qur'an (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them"

Qur'an (33:59) - "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them..." Men determine how women dress.

Qur'an (33:33) - "And abide quietly in your homes..." Women are confined to their homes except when they have permission to go out.

Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will." Wives are to be sexually available to their husbands in all ways at all times. They serve their husbands at his command. This verse is believed to refer to anal sex (see Bukhari 60:51), and was "revealed" when women complained to Muhammad about the practice. The phrase "when and how you will" means that they lost their case.

Qur'an (66:5) - "Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins" A disobedient wife can be replaced.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (88:219) - "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."

Bukhari (2:28) - Ingratitude toward her husband (ie. disobedience) can land a woman in Hell. Muhammad explains why women comprise the bulk of Hell's occupants.

Bukhari (72:715) - A charming little tale in which a woman seeks Muhammad's help in leaving an abusive marriage, but is ordered by the prophet to return to her husband and submit to his commands.

Bukhari (4:149) - Muhammad's wives are even trained to defecate on his command.

Bukhari (48:826) - Women have a deficiency of intelligence, meaning that their decisions will not be comparable to a man's.

Bukhari (58:125) - Women are tradable commodities. A Muslim with two wives offers a fellow Muslim his pick between the two. Muhammad then arranges a wedding banquet.

Bukhari (62:81) - According to Muhammad, the most important part of a marriage contract is the unrestricted access that a man has to his wife's vagina.


Abu Dawud (567) - "...even though their houses are better for them."


jonc

A muslim marriage contract or "Nikah neema" transliterates as a "penetration contract" or (as the word "Nikah" is used of men and women) as a "sexual intercourse contract".
A Muslim marriage, essentially, is a contract in which the women gives sex-on-demand for the payment of a sum of money (Mahr) and being kept fed, clothed and housed.

Stix

It may take some time before the terrorism of Taliban is on the ropes.

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