Recently President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder made the controversial decision to bring 9/11 Islamic terrorist Khalid Sheik Mohammed along with four other muslim terrorists (currently held at Guantanamo Bay) to New York City to face civilian trial. The decision is seen, by many, as pandering to the Democratic Party's lefty leaners by a President whose once phenomenal popularity is sinking faster than the Titanic.
Many Americans believe that this will only place the safety of the residents of New York City in jeopardy as well as cause the survivors and family members of the victims of 9/11 to face years of 'in your face' memories and testimony while the trials slowly progress through the US judicial system. Then there are at least three other problems:
* Military commissions are the appropriate venue for trials of unlawful combatant. The US military seized these terrorists on foreign battlefields -- and so didn't read them Miranda rights. The evidence against them was collected by soldiers under war-fighting conditions -- not with sterile gloves and clear plastic bags. And much of the best evidence against them is classified, because making it public would compromise the sources and methods of US intelligence gathering. In short, these cases do not fit the mold of a typical murder trial in a civilian court.
* The administration is again blurring the line between ordinary crimes and acts of war. Likening terrorists at war with the United States to common shoplifters is wrongheaded. These are not members of our society who refuse to obey our laws: They are enemies of the United States, engaged in war against America and all that it stands for.
* The administration has offered no clear criteria for deciding which terrorists will be charged as criminals in federal court and which ones will face military commissions. Attorney General Holder, in announcing the decision, suggested that the five cases were appropriate for civilian trial simply because the evidence against the terrorists is so strong that they'll surely be found guilty. SOURCE
Despite the above concerns Obama and Holder are insisting upon giving foreign Islamic terrorists the Constitutional rights of United States citizens.
Now comes the news that Pres. Obama is not so interested in the reverse - in preserving the Constitutional rights of US citizens in other countries. In fact he is in the process of negotiating a treaty with the International Criminal Court (ICC) to give the Court jurisdiction over American citizens who commit certain crimes by 2010:
"President Obama has dispatched a delegation this week to The Hague to explore issues involving the United States' possible participation in the International Criminal Court, an organization critics charge could be used to prosecute Americans under international legal standards for actions that are not crimes in the U.S.
Additional explanation of how this could affect Americans:
"Supposing the U.S. engages in a military action and that action results in civilian casualties. We do an investigation of the matter and find no guilty party. If we are a member of the court, if we are a party to the Rome Statute, the ICC at that point has the opportunity to second-guess us," he said. "They may be able to use evidence and they may be able to pursue routes of trial that would not be portable in the U.S. because of the different standards established in the U.S. legal system and the rules set forth in the Rome Statute."
His warning is that the ICC could, "in essence … come and prosecute U.S. citizens, U.S. soldiers, U.S. officials for actions the U.S. deems entirely lawful." SOURCE
Yes the is the exact same treaty which former US President George W. Bush refused to sign - or in essence unsigned - for obvious reasons.
So there you have it - President Barack Hussein Obama is more than willing to toss US citizens under the ICC "bus" by placing Americans under the jurisdiction of the international court and thus preventing these citizens from accessing their Constitutional rights.
But sitting securely on the top of the bus we find Obama - in full dhimmi mode and twisting himself in judicial pretzel knots - to ensure NON US citizens/ confessed muslim terrorists will be imported into the United States and given Constitutional rights and defenses even though doing so places actual US citizens lives at risk and will cost - the already financially strapped US taxpayers ---multi millions of dollars.
You couldn't make this up - nor would you want to. Sure as hell infuriates me!
I am probably wrong - I usually am - but I see the USofA adopting too many policies from the UK. Our socialist scum of a government pandered to the IRA murderers by excusing their atrocities and failing to regard them as warmongers. Our wicked socialist scum government panders to our enemies such as Pakistan, and ignoring the death and destruction that this breeding ground for muslim killers has brought to the Western world. I see the current American administration using the same lies and deceits that were developed by our socialist scum government; Blair, Mandelson, (the quite thick) Brown, Campbell, Hoon, Blunket, and all the rest too numerous to mention. Please America, wake up and see what is being done to you. Otherwise, you will suffer from at least another 11 years of crypto-socialism. And then it will be a long road to recovery. We need you to adher to your founding beliefs.
Posted by: john in cheshire | November 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Love the ignorance - US adopting too many policies from UK...right and I'm the Cheshire Cat.
Yep, you couldn't be more wrong in every single word uttered in your..uh...post...Blair and Brown you can keep - Bush's poodle and his poodle are not my idea of fit for the US - Blair, unfortunately, got a job as part of his pay off from the war Criminals with which he chose to conspire.
Since you know nothing about the issues in GITMO then you got nothin' to say of intelligence, anyway. 116 of the remaining 225 have been fully cleared of everything except being the wrong color for racists to trust and for Bush/Cheney mind meld rot but then that's happening all over the UK with the white supremacist there...
Stay out of our politics..You don't even know what you don't know
20 out of over 875 tortured and kidnapped citizens of other countries and only about 20 might have something for which they could be held but then MI5 and 6 helped with the torture too.
But then when I read arrogant outsiders pretending they have a clue as to what the US Constitution says or means...well, it is quit obvious you haven't by what has been written here...About as much clue as you do the Fairness Doctrine, the Monroe Doctrine, Posse Comitatus Act, Emancipation Proclamation ...
Unless you know what you are discussing, don't open your head, it shows the world there are cobwebs are and we just got to see the spider crawling that I am quite sure was mistaken as synapse
Posted by: Cosmic_Surfer | December 14, 2009 at 10:16 PM