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May 31, 2008

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keith

This kind of thing happens a hundred times a day in Britain. The police always take the side of the immigrants. Every person in my family has been attacked by immigrants. My mum, dad, aunties, uncles brithers. When the BNP win I want justice.
One local lad was attacked here by 30 illegal immigrants who ran out of the local corner shop over an insult. The lad was charged with racism for being beaten with iron bars by illegal immigrants.
This is no longer our land. Civil war is round the corner. People are saving up their hatred for the bloodbath to come.

Proud_Kafir7908

Mahoundian standards of bravery for attacking lone non-muslim (also known as human beings) males again: they're just too wimpy to fight a male human being in one-on-one fights.

Chris

So Kat you're all for burning down churches mosques etc and returning things back to peaceful paganism are you? You obviously don't see the dichotomy with your comments do you? Dickhead

Edwin Rowe

Please, Ana, do not compare these Muslims to Jews. Jews in Britain are the most non-violent of people. Anyone in Britain can enter a Jewish neighborhood without fear of harassment or violence.

"..(unfairly, perhaps)..." !!

Truthsayer

@ Temple Knight (AKA Faggot Knight)

"Those terrible Abrahamic religions!"

Indeed! Fuck them and fuck your imaginary friend in the sky!

"Let’s get a few facts straight about this."

You say this but present NO facts, only lies and distortions.

"Atheism is not the wonderful choice you portray it as."

Sure it is! First of all, how many people were killed BECAUSE of atheism? NONE! But that is irrelevant. The fact is atheism is true, religions are all fucking lies! That is what makes the atrocities carried out in the name of religion so much more tragic. The "justification" is fraudulent.

"The Crusades were launched to regain land conquered by Muslims and to prevent Muslim armies from invading and conquering any more nations and to protect pilgrims to the Holy land from being robbed, raped and/or enslaved! It was a defensive war against Muslim imperialism."

Leave it to a closet faggot neocon Christian Zionist like "Temple Knight" to make a foreign invasion by Christians into the fault of "t3h 3v0l Mouslims!" And since you mentioned "pilgrimage" to the Holy Land, what were those moron Christians doing making a pilgrimage to Palestine? The Cursed Land of Canaan is holy to the Jews because it is their "promised land" and holy to Muslims because of a magic rock from which their prophet supposedly communicated with their god. What is the Christian claim? It's not like Jesus is buried there. (You Christians are supposed to believe that Jesus eose from the dead!) What makes the so-called Holy Land sacred to Christians, whose Christ rose from the dead just to get the fuck out of that hell hole, and whose Kingdom was not of this World? Better question: if it's so "holy" to Christians, why did they suddenly stop?

I will tell you why. The Christian "pilgrimages" to the "Holy Land" were an economic scam by the Christian Church (primarily the Roman Catholic Church) and the Muslims were interfering with the Catholic pilgrimage racket.

"One of liberalism’s favourite anti-Christian bogeyman is the Salem witch trials. How many actually died as a result of those trials: fewer than 25."

Irrelevant non-sequitur about how an arbitrarily small number were killed in the Salem witch trials. Earth to dumb shit temple knight: there were countless more "witches" killed by Christians before then. Not to mention "heretics." Ever hear about a little thing called the Spanish Inquisition?

"The Christian-haters should turn their attentions to militant Islam..."

Okay, fair point.

"...and Atheism as the most serious dangers to the world."

What the FUCK?!? Okay Christian faggot, know of any atheist suicide bombers? Also, name one atrocity associated in any way with atheism... HOLD ON! ...outside of Communism.

"The fact is that while religious wars have been fought for centuries, militant atheism has slaughtered more people than religious zealots ever have."

The onus is on you to demonstrate that, back it up with reliable statistics. I will grant that atheists MAY have caused more deaths (in absolute numbers) than religious people have IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD/RELIGION, but I guarantee that religious violence killed proportionately more people than atheists. You yourself admit that religious killing has gone on longer than "atheist" killing. Also, dumb shit Christer, you throw out a meaningless term like "militant atheism" without even an attempt at definition. I submit that "militant atheism" is an oxymoron. How could disbelief in an entity be militant? Individual atheists may be militant in some way, but atheism as such can not be. Were you born stupid or did you ingest lead paint chips? Finally, further exemplifying your stupidity, you assume that atheists killed "in the name of" their atheism.

"The greatest mass murders in history have been committed not by Christians but by Communists Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse Tung"

By COMMUNISTS, not "atheists," you said so yourself. Communism was their "religion" with their goal of creating "paradise" or "heaven" on Earth. I will grant that Stalin and Mao were atheistic. (We may not know for certain, but that is a fair conclusion. Of course, Stalin WAS at some point a devoted Orthodox Christian trained to become a priest.) I will even add (closet atheist) George W. Bush to your list of "atheist mass murderers." (But note that Adolf Hitler was a devout Roman Catholic.) However, their atheism was incidental. Such atrocities were motivated by political ideology not (lack of belief in) religion.

"...not to mention Pol Pot."

Neither an atheist nor a Communist. The Khmer Rouge were fascist-primitivists who used Marxist-Leninist ideas as a launch pad. Their movement was essentially a renegade "Buddhist" sect who deified Pol Pot as a god emperor. (Christers love to inflate lists of "atheist" or "communist" or "leftist" or "socialist" atrocities by lumping Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in.)

"More than 100 million have died at the hands of these militant atheists since the early 20th century."

Your figure of 100 million is highly suspect. Yes, Communists (by which I mean Marxist-Leninists) are responsible for millions of untimely deaths, but 100 million is grossly inflated. Note that many of the deaths in Stalin's USSR and Mao's China were due to famine. Criminal negligence, but not exactly Final Solution type extermination in all cases. Even so, the actual body count is ultimately irrelevant. Stalin and Mao were not "militant atheists." They were Communists, whose atheism was incidental.

Note also the very narrow window of "atheistic mass murder" from the 1930's to the 1960's, compared to the longer legacy of religious terror stretching from the late Roman Empire (i.e. around the time of Constantine) to the Enlightenment (when religion waned) and now that Communism is gone it's making a return!

"And, one of the first genocides committed in the 20th century was by Turkish Muslims against Armenians between 1915 and 1918. An estimated 1.5 million Christian Armenians were killed during that slaughter."

Correction: the genocides were planned, orchestrated, and directed by Turkish JEWS (Donmeh) with Turkish (and some Kurdish) Muslims as errand boys or scapegoats.

Truthsayer

@ Temple Knight (AKA Faggot Knight)

"Those terrible Abrahamic religions!"

Indeed! Fuck them and fuck your imaginary friend in the sky!

"Let’s get a few facts straight about this."

You say this but present NO facts, only lies and distortions.

"Atheism is not the wonderful choice you portray it as."

Sure it is! First of all, how many people were killed BECAUSE of atheism? NONE! But that is irrelevant. The fact is atheism is true, religions are all fucking lies! That is what makes the atrocities carried out in the name of religion so much more tragic. The "justification" is fraudulent.

"The Crusades were launched to regain land conquered by Muslims and to prevent Muslim armies from invading and conquering any more nations and to protect pilgrims to the Holy land from being robbed, raped and/or enslaved! It was a defensive war against Muslim imperialism."

Leave it to a closet faggot neocon Christian Zionist like "Temple Knight" to make a foreign invasion by Christians into the fault of "t3h 3v0l Mouslims!" And since you mentioned "pilgrimage" to the Holy Land, what were those moron Christians doing making a pilgrimage to Palestine? The Cursed Land of Canaan is holy to the Jews because it is their "promised land" and holy to Muslims because of a magic rock from which their prophet supposedly communicated with their god. What is the Christian claim? It's not like Jesus is buried there. (You Christians are supposed to believe that Jesus eose from the dead!) What makes the so-called Holy Land sacred to Christians, whose Christ rose from the dead just to get the fuck out of that hell hole, and whose Kingdom was not of this World? Better question: if it's so "holy" to Christians, why did they suddenly stop?

I will tell you why. The Christian "pilgrimages" to the "Holy Land" were an economic scam by the Christian Church (primarily the Roman Catholic Church) and the Muslims were interfering with the Catholic pilgrimage racket.

"One of liberalism’s favourite anti-Christian bogeyman is the Salem witch trials. How many actually died as a result of those trials: fewer than 25."

Irrelevant non-sequitur about how an arbitrarily small number were killed in the Salem witch trials. Earth to dumb shit temple knight: there were countless more "witches" killed by Christians before then. Not to mention "heretics." Ever hear about a little thing called the Spanish Inquisition?

"The Christian-haters should turn their attentions to militant Islam..."

Okay, fair point.

"...and Atheism as the most serious dangers to the world."

What the FUCK?!? Okay Christian faggot, know of any atheist suicide bombers? Also, name one atrocity associated in any way with atheism... HOLD ON! ...outside of Communism.

"The fact is that while religious wars have been fought for centuries, militant atheism has slaughtered more people than religious zealots ever have."

The onus is on you to demonstrate that, back it up with reliable statistics. I will grant that atheists MAY have caused more deaths (in absolute numbers) than religious people have IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD/RELIGION, but I guarantee that religious violence killed proportionately more people than atheists. You yourself admit that religious killing has gone on longer than "atheist" killing. Also, dumb shit Christer, you throw out a meaningless term like "militant atheism" without even an attempt at definition. I submit that "militant atheism" is an oxymoron. How could disbelief in an entity be militant? Individual atheists may be militant in some way, but atheism as such can not be. Were you born stupid or did you ingest lead paint chips? Finally, further exemplifying your stupidity, you assume that atheists killed "in the name of" their atheism.

"The greatest mass murders in history have been committed not by Christians but by Communists Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse Tung"

By COMMUNISTS, not "atheists," you said so yourself. Communism was their "religion" with their goal of creating "paradise" or "heaven" on Earth. I will grant that Stalin and Mao were atheistic. (We may not know for certain, but that is a fair conclusion. Of course, Stalin WAS at some point a devoted Orthodox Christian trained to become a priest.) I will even add (closet atheist) George W. Bush to your list of "atheist mass murderers." (But note that Adolf Hitler was a devout Roman Catholic.) However, their atheism was incidental. Such atrocities were motivated by political ideology not (lack of belief in) religion.

"...not to mention Pol Pot."

Neither an atheist nor a Communist. The Khmer Rouge were fascist-primitivists who used Marxist-Leninist ideas as a launch pad. Their movement was essentially a renegade "Buddhist" sect who deified Pol Pot as a god emperor. (Christers love to inflate lists of "atheist" or "communist" or "leftist" or "socialist" atrocities by lumping Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in.)

"More than 100 million have died at the hands of these militant atheists since the early 20th century."

Your figure of 100 million is highly suspect. Yes, Communists (by which I mean Marxist-Leninists) are responsible for millions of untimely deaths, but 100 million is grossly inflated. Note that many of the deaths in Stalin's USSR and Mao's China were due to famine. Criminal negligence, but not exactly Final Solution type extermination in all cases. Even so, the actual body count is ultimately irrelevant. Stalin and Mao were not "militant atheists." They were Communists, whose atheism was incidental.

Note also the very narrow window of "atheistic mass murder" from the 1930's to the 1960's, compared to the longer legacy of religious terror stretching from the late Roman Empire (i.e. around the time of Constantine) to the Enlightenment (when religion waned) and now that Communism is gone it's making a return!

"And, one of the first genocides committed in the 20th century was by Turkish Muslims against Armenians between 1915 and 1918. An estimated 1.5 million Christian Armenians were killed during that slaughter."

Correction: the genocides were planned, orchestrated, and directed by Turkish JEWS (Donmeh) with Turkish (and some Kurdish) Muslims as errand boys or scapegoats.

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