When does 'NO' mean 'Yes'? Hint: Islam

For decades if not longer parents in the UK and other Western nations have taught their sons (and daughters)  when a woman says 'no' to sexual advances then no means no=full stop.  To proceed further is to commit the crime of sexual assault or rape. Certainly this shows the utmost civility and respect for the woman's choice and recognizes tht the majority of women are still the 'weaker' sex when it comes to brute force - thus their verbal sentiments are often their only means of defense.

So what religion/political ideology  supports the often violent oppression of women and that 'no' means 'yes' or women have no right to their own bodies or to their own decisions?

Why Islam of course. (Excellent video)

In the past, we have heard backward and degrading proclamations directed at women issued by various Islamic clerics living in Middle Eastern  and other muslim countries stuck in third-world-mentality Islam. But what does it say about Assimilation vs islamisation when such tripe is spouted from a Western nation? From the so-called 'moderate' male muslim population?

"Britain's leading Muslim TV channel was accused of encouraging “marital rape” and promoting other intolerant views of women in a report on extremism published today.

The report by think tank Quillam says that the London-based Islam Channel broadcast comments saying that “the idea a woman cannot refuse her husband relations” was “not strange” and was instead part of “maintaining a strong marriage”.

It says that the channel also broadcast advice that a wife should not leave her home without her husband's permission and that a woman who wears perfume in public is a prostitute.

...The guest said “it is a bit strange... to refuse relations. It would harm a marriage. The idea that a woman, even if married, can refuse relations with her husband because of individual choice'... is part of the Western culture, but not Islam.'"

Clearly it shows, as in so many other instances - far too many for me to cite them all - that many muslims have absolutely no desire to assimilate into Western cultures - to believe so is ignoring the obvious  - precisely what the multiculturists would have us do.  These muslims prefer instead to colonize our nations  and bring their backwards ideas out  into the mainstream and instill sharia law as the law of our land.

Thus it will not be only women who pay a high price for multiculturalims/Islamisation  - we all will.

Article in full:

UK's Muslim TV: Wives must not refuse sex with spouse

Britain's leading Muslim TV channel was accused of encouraging “marital rape” and promoting other intolerant views of women in a report on extremism published today.

The report by think tank Quillam says that the London-based Islam Channel broadcast comments saying that “the idea a woman cannot refuse her husband relations” was “not strange” and was instead part of “maintaining a strong marriage”.

It says that the channel also broadcast advice that a wife should not leave her home without her husband's permission and that a woman who wears perfume in public is a prostitute.

The think tank, which is calling for an investigation by broadcasting watchdog Ofcom, also accuses the channel of advertising talks by al Qaeda-supporting preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, who is alleged to have inspired failed Detroit bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, and of giving a platform to other extremist Islamists.

The report, which was based on an analysis of broadcasts over three months, also states that Islam Channel's programmes have undermined trust between community groups by airing hostile comments about non-Muslims and those who follow alternative versions of Islam.

The channel's website says that it aims “to present the Islamic viewpoint and values” and provide “authoritative and impartial Islamic information”. It aims to act as an “interface” between Muslims and non-Muslims and remove misconceptions about the religion.

But Talal Rajab, the report's author, said the programmes regularly promoted an “intolerant and out-of-date” form of Islam with unacceptable views. He said: “It is the most-watched Muslim TV channel in the UK. During the three-month period that we monitored its output, it repeatedly promoted bigoted and reactionary views towards women, non-Muslims and other Muslim sects.

“Although the channel does not directly call for terrorist violence, it clearly helps to create an atmosphere in which religiously-sanctioned intolerance and even hatred might be seen as acceptable.

"By promoting a single narrow version of Islam, Saudi Wahhabism, the Islam Channel is wasting an enormous opportunity to positively shape the nature of Islam in Britain.”

Among the comments highlighted by the report were those by a guest on the programme Muslimah Dilemma on whether a wife should always agree to sex with her husband.

The guest said “it is a bit strange... to refuse relations. It would harm a marriage. The idea that a woman, even if married, can refuse relations with her husband because of individual choice'... is part of the Western culture, but not Islam.”

There was concern about the religious advice programme IslamiQA, in which viewers were told “the majority of people in the hell will be women” because they are the cause of “calamities, hardship and suffering” in Western society. The same presenter tells viewers that if a woman wears perfume in public and it is smelt by a stranger “then she is declared a prostitute”.

The privately funded Islam Channel, which launched in 2004, has already been found by Ofcom to have breached the broadcasting code on impartiality during elections, and for broadcasting an unbalanced programme about the ownership of Jerusalem.

 

Comments

[Istanbul_Chick]

No means yes...You have no idea how true that statement is in the sick minds of mohammadan males.

I have gone toe to toe with those filthy creatures for many years (Since 1986). And not one of them has understood that "no" does indeed mean "NO!"

Here is the usual scenario which is identical, almost word for word, with every disgusting mohammadan male I've had the misfortune of meeting in person and online. These encounters were brought on by the simple fact that I am a non-mohammadan female. I neither encourage nor look for these interactions. Many other non-mohammadan women have to endure these encounters simply because those disgusting creatures called muslims do not have the capacity to respect the word "NO." Here is a sampling of what abuse we non-mohammdan women have to put up with:

mohammadan: "You me sex yes?" "Can we fuck?" "You love sex?"

Me: "NO!"

mohammadan: "Why?"

Me: I said "no." Please leave me alone.

mohammadan: "I good fucker man." "You like in ass?" "mine penis 18 cm!"

Me: Please leave me alone. I said no. If you persist there will be consequences.

mohammadan: "Why you so 'sticky'?" "Are you lesbian."

Me: I said no. Now get the hell out of my face!

mohammadan: "Prostitute!"

Me: A prostitute says yes for money. My answer will always be NO. Now please desist!

mohammadan: "Whore!" "You fucked by many men now you fuck me!" I fuck your ass!"

Me: Spoken like a true mohammadan. They teach you those words in the kuran?

mohammadan: "You fucked bad by muslim!" "I fuck you all family's ass!"

Me: No muslim has or ever will will touch me. I would rather eat glass than have any relationship with any mohammdan.

mohammadan: "whore, bitch! I fuck u ass and cut your head!"

Me: While you're at it cut both your heads, now kindly piss off!"

mohammadan: "Why so aggressive!" "You aggressive bitch!" "You need psychologist!"

And so the threats against the kafir woman and her family continue ad nauseum. This is absolutely typical behaviour from mohammdan males. In their sick and twisted psyches a kafir woman has absolutely no right to say no to them. There must be some hidden hadith titled "How to deal with uppity kafir whores who dare to say no to you" for they all use the same "lines."

Now, before you equally disgusting lefties scream "it's just their culture!" stop, think and tell me which culture? I've been on the receiving end of those verbal assaults almost word for word from Arab mohammadans, African mohammadans, Asian mohammadans, Turkish mohammadans, Canadian mohammadans and even one POS American reverted mohammadan.

It can't be a man thing because I've never had a Jew, Hindu, Maoist, Taoist, Buddhist, Atheist or Satanist call me prostitute, whore, threaten to rape me and my family, call me aggressive for daring to say no or tell me I need psychological help because I get offended by the threats and insults. Not one. Not even close. The above filth has only come from mohammadan's vile mouths.

So, which culture is it, lefties? African, Pakistani, Indian, Malaysian, Phillipino, Turkish, Arabic, American, Canadian? Which one is to blame?

[rom]

@Istanbul_chick: the late anti-islamic writer and activist Oriana Fallaci had this to say about muslim men:

"...there is something about muslim men, that makes women with good tastes vomit......"Oriana Fallaci +2006.

[Istanbul_Chick]

@rom

She always was spot on about mohammadans.

I absolutely agree with her 100%.

The only "kafir whores" who need psychological help are the disgusting (usually fat and/or old) ones who have relations with mohammadan males.

My husband and I were strolling through a touristic area here in Istanbul. We spotted a mohammadan playing tonsil-hockey with what looked to be a prime grade A American hefer (at least 150 kilos). My husband yelled out "he's lying! You're also considered fat in Turkish culture!"

The military needs a new branch: The Fatty F*ckers. Their duty would be to marry the fattys/kooks/grannies so these dumb broads stop marrying and importing more mohammadans into the west.

Of course, those brave men of the Fatty F*ckers would be paid life-time combat pay.

[madelaine]

Well.. actually their acts are just like dominating, and before drawing any decision they don't even feel the urge to think on it what will be the results?

[chondro1]

Thats not right, The truth of Islam is that we do respect the word 'No' and most mohammadan males you meet online are disgusting hooligans but thats not what Islam and Quran teaches us, i am a mohammadan and i know how disgusting some mohammadan males act and talk online but that is not what Islam teaches us as a religion and all of the rude disgusting mohammadan males dont give a damn about their own religion.

for whoever wrote the first comment please do not judge us all to what you described, that is not how muslims are and any filthy disgusting man of that kind isn't considored a true faithful muslim, like you ive met all kinds of filthy disgusting muslim men online which pretty much makes me very sad about how these brainless filthy males of our culture and religion give us muslims a very bad public reputation.

[chondro1]

@Istanbul_Chick;
Every single culture or religion has both negative and positive reactions and activities, and we here in the muslim world have all kind of negative reactions but that doesn't deny the positive of the religion it self, if muslim teenagers are learning bad thoughts and reactions from TV, Web, etc that doesn't make it the Quran or Islam it's self teaching us, as i said i have seen all kinds of muslim negative behaviors online and i hate it, however i have also seen these behaviors in Hindu, Jews, Buddhists, Athiests, and Christians.

This is a translated (Arabic to English) from the Holy Quran:

'Show forgiveness, enjoin what is good, and turn away from the foolish' (i.e. don't punish them).

Talking about good manners and peacful behavior.

[chondro1]

@Istanbul_Chick:

I have no idea what your saying about mohammadans in turkey, but if you really have a problem with that you should go move to europe or north america assuming you are in turkey, and besides, turkey is known a islamic country with more than 70 percent muslims but unfortunately most of these are seculars.

your saying 'the west', im not sure where exactly, but if your talking about turkey then, what'd you expect its already an islamic mohammadan country why try to confirm its due to the fatties marrying mohammadans and importing them to the west (turkey or any other country), and thats not what is happening anyways, we muslims do not have any ridiculous relationships with western people but if your talking about turkey then its simply turkish people having relationships with other turkish people, whom are basically all muslims.
however, how do you know a guy playing tonsil hockey is mohammadan, is he wearing islamic clothes and having a french kiss?? (i dont think so) its probably just another secular turkish geek.